Regardless of what it is called, the fact is higher prices for PLEX mean less are offered for sale.

People sell just enough PLEX in game to cover their current costs. They do not randomly decide "oh PLEX are getting a billion ISK now I cash in a stack and buy that Revenant I always wanted" - they sell the number of PLEX needed to cover their current ISK requirements.

because you can buy more assets per 1 PLEX. So before ppl sell 1 PLEX per month, now will be selling 1 PLEX per two or three months. Less real cash for CCP.

So yes...

As long as the general trend of prices of all non-plex items is deflationary, the rising price of Plex has a compounding effect on itself in that people need to sell less of them to do what they want in the game... where as the people buying plex need to do more in game to gather the isk to buy.

Again, it is a Hurricane effect.

1 account Eve = 1 account in WoT + 1 account in LoL + 1 account in (random game name) = more fun then EVE at these plex prices...

I understand that Plex doesn't change the fun level of Eve... but what does it say about Eve that players would rather play free games than this one?

I said it before, I will say it again, and you will undoubtedly white-knight to the bitter end. Many players are willing to play Eve when it is free to them through Plex. Just because it is worth playing doesn't mean it is worth paying for to these players.

In fact, CCP gets MORE cash from Plexers than they do monthly subs.

Ignorant

Even if you Plex your account you are still paying CCP for your game time. All Plex came from CCP, therefore all Plex is a monthy sub paid to them whether some noob paid it for you or you go on a Monthly plan.


In fact, CCP gets MORE cash from Plexers than they do monthly subs.

So stop being so ignorant. No one is "Pirating" plex from CCP.

I meant paying attention to whats happening with ccp/Eve, Wow, you still see what plex users have said as irrelevant. You can't even see that its not really me pushing, My views are based on other peoples (plex users) gripes.

You are completely missing my point, man.

1) The largest hoarders are not selling. Infact Im not even entirely certain they have any intention of ever selling.
The current price situation is irrational as weighed against a tight sequence of strong effects which should have additively reduced PLEX price, but did not. Instead prices rise faster. The force of commerce required to have overcome these commensurate PLEX price mitigators is huge, premeditated, concerted and deliberate.

I previously called you on being too abstract and extreme, now I have to call you on being too narrow.

As I said, PLEX sitting in someones station hold IS NOT SUBBING ANYONE, and yet appreciating in value for every unit taken off the market.
Take a minute to think on the long term implications of that.

2) There is no time limit. If you hold 1000+ PLEX , and started buying already in August 2014, your stock value is already enormously appreciated in value. The amount of stockpiled PLEX in this game, at this point, can easily overcome the incidental introduction of more of it in competition, simply by buying it off the market.

3) How am I faring? Im liquidating assets as fast as I can to buy PLEX. My only regret is I didnt do it a month ago (let alone a year ago).

4) This is EVE. Remember that. The potential for critical mass PLEX manipulation has always been a potential. Last years events from last fall have created an excellent opportunity in may ways that some organisations have finally found a window for actualising this.

5) Nothing can be done, except to buy up as much PLEX as you can, right now, so that you are not left disadvantaged when PLEX finally stabilises at some higher rate.

6) PLEX is not going to drop. Nothing indicates that it would. Its rises already overcame significant mitigants, and hoarders have a vested interest in maintaining it high, which they will, and theybhave the appreciated stock with which to facilitate that.

Nothing can beat your buddy paying your sub for a reward theres no other way. We need regulation, the only way seems to be reducing RL cost.

Well, I'm reliably informed that lots of old rich players are leaving with the intention of ruining it for everyone. So, page 22.

You should really stop posting because you make absolutely no sense at all.

You just face-planted.

You just face-planted.
Hard.

Its clear you have been hurt either on this account or another, and desperately want to strike back anyway you can.
But in this instance, you really should re-evaluate what you just said, pick up your teeth and be on your way.

You know what else Cars aren't?!

In Eve Online.

WTF are you babbling on aboutGäó

PLEX is available to everyone, and anyone in EVE and outside of it, by exactly the same means.

No privilege is necessary or required.
All you need is money, or isk.

If you are unable to afford PLEX, that does not mean you are "under privileged", or lacking a privilege which those who can afford it have.

It merely means you do not have as much money to spend (or will to do so), ingame or without it, to purchase this commodity.

Its nonsense and quite a perversion of the severe concept of "privilege" for which there are serious historical examples, to walk around in life thinking you are "under privileged" because you can't afford a gold watch or a Ferrari.

What about the acknowledgement of privileged obligates him to do anything like that?

You're impsossible.

Or that there is nothing in game to spend said isk on. No conflict drivers, no shinny things, no capitals, no end game goods.

Deflation is starting to show up in several areas of the market recently, not just T3 prices, T2 mods and rigs, but also in certain mineral and ice markets as well. Pith/Gist stuff was just the beginning. Even the LP store for SoE is taking a hit right now.

Everything is costing less on the market, there is less need to buy it and there is less people buying. Thus Plex rises because Out of game supply is diminished, and in game demand increases (Not going to pay real money myself to play a game im not enjoying, but will use in-game assets to keep the skill queue running)

Deflation by definition is the price of goods dropping. Doesn't matter why for this discussion.

As you can see, money supply is credited as the often likely cause. In the case of our Eve Economy, it likely is not. Oversupply of raw materials is likely the cause of deflation in Eve.

Deflation is starting to show up in several areas of the market recently, not just T3 prices, T2 mods and rigs, but also in certain mineral and ice markets as well. Pith/Gist stuff was just the beginning. Even the LP store for SoE is taking a hit right now.

Because monetary inflation wouldn't cause prices to drop...

Because monetary inflation wouldn't cause prices to drop...